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	<description>Bipolar Blast no more. Shedding the label.  Psychiatric drug withdrawal and recovery. Life without meds: a contemplation</description>
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		<title>By: The holistic doc or my first appointment with an anti-psych-drug doc &#171; Naturalgal&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The holistic doc or my first appointment with an anti-psych-drug doc &#171; Naturalgal&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He talked about amino acids for the brain and body function. He had a little chart with lists. Every visit to him included homework assignments of books, paper and websites to read. (Please be care with amino acids, read Gianna Kali&#8217;s experience here.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He talked about amino acids for the brain and body function. He had a little chart with lists. Every visit to him included homework assignments of books, paper and websites to read. (Please be care with amino acids, read Gianna Kali&#8217;s experience here.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amino acids and mental health &#171; Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal and Recovery&#8212;a journey</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2007/04/02/cautionary-tale-amino-acids/#comment-5639</link>
		<dc:creator>Amino acids and mental health &#171; Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal and Recovery&#8212;a journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to my supplement regime. I&#8217;m exclusively using inhibitory amino acids, as when I tried excitatory amino acids I had bad reactions. Besides the story I just linked to I also tried SAMe and had a real nightmare of a time as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to my supplement regime. I&#8217;m exclusively using inhibitory amino acids, as when I tried excitatory amino acids I had bad reactions. Besides the story I just linked to I also tried SAMe and had a real nightmare of a time as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2007/04/02/cautionary-tale-amino-acids/#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So again, the warning: Don’t use anything whose effects, side effects and containdications have not been researched professionally, by medical doctors, with control groups for safety, and published in peer-reviewed journals. If you use anything else, you are taking a much larger risk than you think.&lt;/i&gt;

Since it's pretty damn risky to take anything in peer reviewed journals it's no comfort to me whether it's been formally studied. I already know about everything they use at this facility. It's basically all stuff I already use or have tried in some different combinations. It's safe stuff with a long history of safety. Anecdotal stories are worth something if you have a pool of hundreds who don't all say the same thing. And I do.

Stop with the doom and gloom-- I don't need you telling me what to do. 

The medical profession is a bunch of fuckheads who are beholden to pharma who only care about a buck. Screw peered reviewed journals.  I listen to anecdotes about drugs and trust those more than the PDR. I've lived those &lt;i&gt;side effects ie: anecdotes&lt;/i&gt; that are never mentioned in the peer reviewed journals. Anecdotes are my friends.

Oh....I though you were responding to my last post---on the withdrawal facility I'm going to. I didn't notice this was another post. In any case, I listen to my body. I trust it now. The peer reviewed journals sure as hell didn't tell me how sick I would become on drugs. I do the same with supplements.

Sorry you felt sick as a result of a supplement. Has happened to me a handful of times. I stop it immediately, unlike when I was being treated by a psychiatrist and told to tolerate side effects---which one seems more sane???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So again, the warning: Don’t use anything whose effects, side effects and containdications have not been researched professionally, by medical doctors, with control groups for safety, and published in peer-reviewed journals. If you use anything else, you are taking a much larger risk than you think.</i></p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s pretty damn risky to take anything in peer reviewed journals it&#8217;s no comfort to me whether it&#8217;s been formally studied. I already know about everything they use at this facility. It&#8217;s basically all stuff I already use or have tried in some different combinations. It&#8217;s safe stuff with a long history of safety. Anecdotal stories are worth something if you have a pool of hundreds who don&#8217;t all say the same thing. And I do.</p>
<p>Stop with the doom and gloom&#8211; I don&#8217;t need you telling me what to do. </p>
<p>The medical profession is a bunch of fuckheads who are beholden to pharma who only care about a buck. Screw peered reviewed journals.  I listen to anecdotes about drugs and trust those more than the PDR. I&#8217;ve lived those <i>side effects ie: anecdotes</i> that are never mentioned in the peer reviewed journals. Anecdotes are my friends.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;.I though you were responding to my last post&#8212;on the withdrawal facility I&#8217;m going to. I didn&#8217;t notice this was another post. In any case, I listen to my body. I trust it now. The peer reviewed journals sure as hell didn&#8217;t tell me how sick I would become on drugs. I do the same with supplements.</p>
<p>Sorry you felt sick as a result of a supplement. Has happened to me a handful of times. I stop it immediately, unlike when I was being treated by a psychiatrist and told to tolerate side effects&#8212;which one seems more sane???</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2007/04/02/cautionary-tale-amino-acids/#comment-2559</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be careful of any claim by individuals based on anecdotal evidence, and rely only on peer-reviewed articles. I made the mistake some years ago of adding ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) to my list of supplements, to enhance brain function.What  was not known then is that ALA is also a medium-strength anti-depressant, so it fills you with a warm glow. This was good. But when my supply ran out for a week, and I neglected to buy more, I fell into a deep funk that was very much like depression. I quickly bought more ALA, took one capsule literally on my way out the door of the health food store, and within half a block my mood lifted. Over the next day I had some ups and downs, so I resolved to get off the ALA-- I don't want to be hooked on anything. 

So again, the warning: Don't use anything whose effects, side effects and containdications have not been researched professionally, by medical doctors, with control groups for safety, and published in peer-reviewed journals. If you use anything else, you are taking a much larger risk than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be careful of any claim by individuals based on anecdotal evidence, and rely only on peer-reviewed articles. I made the mistake some years ago of adding ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) to my list of supplements, to enhance brain function.What  was not known then is that ALA is also a medium-strength anti-depressant, so it fills you with a warm glow. This was good. But when my supply ran out for a week, and I neglected to buy more, I fell into a deep funk that was very much like depression. I quickly bought more ALA, took one capsule literally on my way out the door of the health food store, and within half a block my mood lifted. Over the next day I had some ups and downs, so I resolved to get off the ALA&#8211; I don&#8217;t want to be hooked on anything. </p>
<p>So again, the warning: Don&#8217;t use anything whose effects, side effects and containdications have not been researched professionally, by medical doctors, with control groups for safety, and published in peer-reviewed journals. If you use anything else, you are taking a much larger risk than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
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		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a general statement "amino acids and MAOI inhibitors are a bad mix" makes no sense since we eat a ton of amino acids everyday in everything that contains protein.

On the other hand MAOI inhibitors have a huge list of contraindicated foods. It's possible that amino acids that have been isolated from their natural occurring forms could contraindicate. 

If you're on a MAOI inhibitor it's very important you know for sure if you can eat something while taking it because contraindications can be quite dangerous.

Ahhh!! I just did a quick google search. Most of the foods that are not allowed are not allowed BECAUSE of one particular amino acid---that being tyramine. 

I did not do thorough research so don't make the assumptions other amino acids are safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a general statement &#8220;amino acids and MAOI inhibitors are a bad mix&#8221; makes no sense since we eat a ton of amino acids everyday in everything that contains protein.</p>
<p>On the other hand MAOI inhibitors have a huge list of contraindicated foods. It&#8217;s possible that amino acids that have been isolated from their natural occurring forms could contraindicate. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re on a MAOI inhibitor it&#8217;s very important you know for sure if you can eat something while taking it because contraindications can be quite dangerous.</p>
<p>Ahhh!! I just did a quick google search. Most of the foods that are not allowed are not allowed BECAUSE of one particular amino acid&#8212;that being tyramine. </p>
<p>I did not do thorough research so don&#8217;t make the assumptions other amino acids are safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrowful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrowful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read that amino acids and MAOI inhibitors are a bad mix.  Does anyone know about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that amino acids and MAOI inhibitors are a bad mix.  Does anyone know about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Gianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi...this will be a response to both of you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Stephany, &lt;br/&gt;Hormones, indeed, are sometimes the cause of "mental illness." I've not mentioned this before on this site--perhaps I should at some point--but my first several hospitalizations (psychosis triggered by halluninogens) were all linked to my menstrual cycle. I would peak out with mania, land in the psych ward and the following day my menses would start. So...my psychosis/mania was indeed pre-menstrual. I also have endometriosis and was treated with BC pills at an early age and the BC pills made me crazy...I didn't realize that was the cause until I went off of them and was fine again. In any case....BC pills can cause instability too. I don't know enough about the condition your daughter has...BC pills may be appropriate. (I was on Depakote a long time and was very lucky not to develop polycystic ovary syndrome.) I didn't know anything about it until recently and was furious that my doctor never told me of the risk. Anyway, I, like you, may talk more about hormones and mental illness at some point, but I don't know enough at this point and unfortunately, like so many issues with mental health, there is not enough information out there. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(I've tried Braggs before...it is yummy...you're right)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ruth,&lt;br/&gt;If you are interested in trying amino acids I highly recommend the book I mentioned "the Mood Cure" she not only goes into amino acids but diet in general.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Amino acids are available in pill form here in the states. I don't know if they ship to Australia, but a really good internet company for supplements is vitacost.com. They sell everything at cost. I know they ship to the UK. They have most amino acids available as far as I know. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, you're right about Taurine...it is in energy drinks. I think you're also right about it taking the edge off. It creates a feeling of well being with the guarana. Guarana is not an amino acid...it is a kind of caffeine from a plant source.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway...if you choose to try the amino acids go slow and easy! I may try again someday, but I'm waiting until I'm off drugs and know my body in that state. Perhaps I won't need additional energy. That would be the ideal. I probably need to give my body a good year to heal after the withdrawal is complete as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;thanks for the comments...both were very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;this will be a response to both of you.</p>
<p>Stephany, <br />Hormones, indeed, are sometimes the cause of &#8220;mental illness.&#8221; I&#8217;ve not mentioned this before on this site&#8211;perhaps I should at some point&#8211;but my first several hospitalizations (psychosis triggered by halluninogens) were all linked to my menstrual cycle. I would peak out with mania, land in the psych ward and the following day my menses would start. So&#8230;my psychosis/mania was indeed pre-menstrual. I also have endometriosis and was treated with BC pills at an early age and the BC pills made me crazy&#8230;I didn&#8217;t realize that was the cause until I went off of them and was fine again. In any case&#8230;.BC pills can cause instability too. I don&#8217;t know enough about the condition your daughter has&#8230;BC pills may be appropriate. (I was on Depakote a long time and was very lucky not to develop polycystic ovary syndrome.) I didn&#8217;t know anything about it until recently and was furious that my doctor never told me of the risk. Anyway, I, like you, may talk more about hormones and mental illness at some point, but I don&#8217;t know enough at this point and unfortunately, like so many issues with mental health, there is not enough information out there. </p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve tried Braggs before&#8230;it is yummy&#8230;you&#8217;re right)</p>
<p>Ruth,<br />If you are interested in trying amino acids I highly recommend the book I mentioned &#8220;the Mood Cure&#8221; she not only goes into amino acids but diet in general.</p>
<p>Amino acids are available in pill form here in the states. I don&#8217;t know if they ship to Australia, but a really good internet company for supplements is vitacost.com. They sell everything at cost. I know they ship to the UK. They have most amino acids available as far as I know. </p>
<p>Anyway, you&#8217;re right about Taurine&#8230;it is in energy drinks. I think you&#8217;re also right about it taking the edge off. It creates a feeling of well being with the guarana. Guarana is not an amino acid&#8230;it is a kind of caffeine from a plant source.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;if you choose to try the amino acids go slow and easy! I may try again someday, but I&#8217;m waiting until I&#8217;m off drugs and know my body in that state. Perhaps I won&#8217;t need additional energy. That would be the ideal. I probably need to give my body a good year to heal after the withdrawal is complete as well.</p>
<p>thanks for the comments&#8230;both were very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 07:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must confess my complete and utter ignorance on the subject. Are these amino acids available in raw form, or do you just eat foods that are supposed to contain a significant amount of the desired acid? Isn't Taurine the stuff that's in energy drinks - if it's inhibitory, it should presumably slow you down rather than speed you up - or maybe they chuck it in to take the edge off the guarana (another amino acid)?  Isn't phenylaline in &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; diet drink known to woman? I assumed it was just some kind of sweetener that was probably very very bad for me!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, with energy levels flattened by Zoloft withdrawal, your post has made me very curious and keen to investigate further, and to figure out what the retailing situation is down under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess my complete and utter ignorance on the subject. Are these amino acids available in raw form, or do you just eat foods that are supposed to contain a significant amount of the desired acid? Isn&#8217;t Taurine the stuff that&#8217;s in energy drinks - if it&#8217;s inhibitory, it should presumably slow you down rather than speed you up - or maybe they chuck it in to take the edge off the guarana (another amino acid)?  Isn&#8217;t phenylaline in <em>every</em> diet drink known to woman? I assumed it was just some kind of sweetener that was probably very very bad for me!</p>
<p>Anyway, with energy levels flattened by Zoloft withdrawal, your post has made me very curious and keen to investigate further, and to figure out what the retailing situation is down under.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Margo Kidder, I think was hiding in bushes at LAX[airport]. Have you ever used Bragg Liquid Aminos ? it's really good stuff. It's like a soy sauce type of flavoring, that you can add to salad, brown rice, etc. and has the Aminos in it. I use that on everything. &lt;br/&gt;PMS is a really big topic. I've written some on my blog about hormones and mental illness, and have more to write. Lindsay is on BC pills for the polycystic ovary syndrome that was left behind from Depakote: but when the docs induced a period to confirm she had a uterus[yeah]she went literally insane. It was awful.The specialist has her on BC pills without placebos/ she does not have periods at all to prevent this hormone induced insanity. I understand what you are going through, and in my opinion, women's hormones are far more complex than docs know what to do about; and I'm convinced that it's more often than not, with many women, hormones out of whack and not mental illness.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good luck--Stephany</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margo Kidder, I think was hiding in bushes at LAX[airport]. Have you ever used Bragg Liquid Aminos ? it&#8217;s really good stuff. It&#8217;s like a soy sauce type of flavoring, that you can add to salad, brown rice, etc. and has the Aminos in it. I use that on everything. <br />PMS is a really big topic. I&#8217;ve written some on my blog about hormones and mental illness, and have more to write. Lindsay is on BC pills for the polycystic ovary syndrome that was left behind from Depakote: but when the docs induced a period to confirm she had a uterus[yeah]she went literally insane. It was awful.The specialist has her on BC pills without placebos/ she does not have periods at all to prevent this hormone induced insanity. I understand what you are going through, and in my opinion, women&#8217;s hormones are far more complex than docs know what to do about; and I&#8217;m convinced that it&#8217;s more often than not, with many women, hormones out of whack and not mental illness.</p>
<p>Good luck&#8211;Stephany</p>
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