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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/symptoms-and-acceptance/#comment-5911</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m grateful to find your blog and read this inspiring post - i feel understood, less alone. i&#039;ve given up the med cocktail as well, although i&#039;m a rapid cycler so i get the highs and lows, mostly lows. the medications either didn&#039;t work for long, didn&#039;t work at all, and/or made me feel much worse. the withdrawals were horrible. i&#039;m presently taking adderall to help with the fatigue and focus needed when i travel and teach and ambien when i&#039;m away from home and can&#039;t sleep. i&#039;m a buddhist practioner of mindfulness and using that instead of meds - eckhart tolle&#039;s books and cd&#039;s are helping lately to remind me that i am not these thoughts or emotions, being the witness. i catch myself wishing the sadness/anxiety were gone at times, a reminder that once again i need to let go and accept the present moment, exactly where i am. thank you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m grateful to find your blog and read this inspiring post &#8211; i feel understood, less alone. i&#8217;ve given up the med cocktail as well, although i&#8217;m a rapid cycler so i get the highs and lows, mostly lows. the medications either didn&#8217;t work for long, didn&#8217;t work at all, and/or made me feel much worse. the withdrawals were horrible. i&#8217;m presently taking adderall to help with the fatigue and focus needed when i travel and teach and ambien when i&#8217;m away from home and can&#8217;t sleep. i&#8217;m a buddhist practioner of mindfulness and using that instead of meds &#8211; eckhart tolle&#8217;s books and cd&#8217;s are helping lately to remind me that i am not these thoughts or emotions, being the witness. i catch myself wishing the sadness/anxiety were gone at times, a reminder that once again i need to let go and accept the present moment, exactly where i am. thank you.<br />
katie</p>
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		<title>By: jim s</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love what Doe said.  It might be easier to take a pill, but you do lose something.  You pay a price.  Some may not mind the price or may not even notice the pice they are paying.  

I was in AA or a good while and still could not feel much of a contact with a higher power, even though I was going to meetings, doing service work, reading, and helping others.  However, as soon as I got off the last of my medication, I started to feel a closeness with a power greater than myself.  No matter how hard I tried, nothing worked until I was off of all drugs.

I&#039;m probably super sensitive.  Yet that can be a great strength.  I have done a lot of volunteer work, helping people in the conmunity.  The main reason I make this effort is that I feel for people with problems.  That is I&#039;m sensitive to the suffering of others.  I&#039;ve done well in my field of study--science--because I&#039;m sensitive to details that others fail to observe.  

Jim S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love what Doe said.  It might be easier to take a pill, but you do lose something.  You pay a price.  Some may not mind the price or may not even notice the pice they are paying.  </p>
<p>I was in AA or a good while and still could not feel much of a contact with a higher power, even though I was going to meetings, doing service work, reading, and helping others.  However, as soon as I got off the last of my medication, I started to feel a closeness with a power greater than myself.  No matter how hard I tried, nothing worked until I was off of all drugs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably super sensitive.  Yet that can be a great strength.  I have done a lot of volunteer work, helping people in the conmunity.  The main reason I make this effort is that I feel for people with problems.  That is I&#8217;m sensitive to the suffering of others.  I&#8217;ve done well in my field of study&#8211;science&#8211;because I&#8217;m sensitive to details that others fail to observe.  </p>
<p>Jim S</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[What Doe said] -- heh heh!
But I too, used to sneer my lip w/disdain at all those weenies suffering from PMS - until I have drawn closer to menopause &amp; started suffering them myself... Deep dark despair/depression/irritability/bloat/carb cravings/etc etc!
Damn I will be glad to be THROUGH w/it; 34 yrs is ENUFF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[What Doe said] &#8212; heh heh!<br />
But I too, used to sneer my lip w/disdain at all those weenies suffering from PMS &#8211; until I have drawn closer to menopause &amp; started suffering them myself&#8230; Deep dark despair/depression/irritability/bloat/carb cravings/etc etc!<br />
Damn I will be glad to be THROUGH w/it; 34 yrs is ENUFF!</p>
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		<title>By: Doe</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 15:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gianna,

I really loved this post and felt myself resonating strongly with almost all of it.

I don&#039;t seem to have a lot of energy lately for writing or articulating my thoughts much, which is a little frustrating, b/c your post triggered so many feelings, so many that it&#039;s overwhelming for me to try and respond...where do I start?  I don&#039;t know.

I&#039;ve come so far on my withdrawal journey.  I have to remind myself of that when I feel there&#039;s still so much further to go.  I know it will take me a long time to get off of the prozac I am on. But I&#039;m on just 5 mgs a day--that&#039;s amazing--I should really pat myself on the back for that.

I don&#039;t deal with physical symptoms much at all anymore at this low dose (although when I do a reduction, I know I&#039;ll feel tired and achey)...mostly what I deal with now is dealing with my original state--the state that led me to medicate to begin with.  Being really sensitive--what others call &quot;over sensitive&quot;...getting my feelings hurt easily, being paranoid that people are talking about me, that people don&#039;t like me..all these anxieties take so much of my energy, that sometimes I have to admit I think &quot;Maybe this whole thing is crazy...I mean just take the pills, they make it so much easier!&quot;.  But I know at this point, there&#039;s a price to pay, and I&#039;m no longer willing to pay it.  I feel the drugs take away a big part of my spirituality and soul--and I want to know this part--deeply and passionately--including the searing pain--before I die.  I mean what else is there?  I think that self-hatred and the social anxiety that produces is my main issue.  Knowing that helps.  I have tools now that I didn&#039;t in my early 20&#039;s when I began taking drugs to ease the self hating tortures my mind would inflict on me.  Meditation is so key.  It&#039;s made more of a difference than anything.  I had a major turning point when I realized I wasn&#039;t my thoughts.  This is just static on the radio.  It&#039;s not me.  Once I really saw that, I couldn&#039;t go back.  

So now I&#039;m back to square one...dealing with me, and all that tortuous stuff, without the thicker skin that the drugs give.  It&#039;s hard.  But it feels familiar...like I&#039;m back to that younger self that just needed some love, acceptance and guidance (not drugs)...and I&#039;m going to give it to her.  

I definitely think love and acceptance can help heal ourselves and then we in turn become healers for others.  And I think you are meant to be a healer, Gianna, and that your posts, whether happy or sad, victorious or despairing, are very healing for us all to read.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gianna,</p>
<p>I really loved this post and felt myself resonating strongly with almost all of it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t seem to have a lot of energy lately for writing or articulating my thoughts much, which is a little frustrating, b/c your post triggered so many feelings, so many that it&#8217;s overwhelming for me to try and respond&#8230;where do I start?  I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come so far on my withdrawal journey.  I have to remind myself of that when I feel there&#8217;s still so much further to go.  I know it will take me a long time to get off of the prozac I am on. But I&#8217;m on just 5 mgs a day&#8211;that&#8217;s amazing&#8211;I should really pat myself on the back for that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t deal with physical symptoms much at all anymore at this low dose (although when I do a reduction, I know I&#8217;ll feel tired and achey)&#8230;mostly what I deal with now is dealing with my original state&#8211;the state that led me to medicate to begin with.  Being really sensitive&#8211;what others call &#8220;over sensitive&#8221;&#8230;getting my feelings hurt easily, being paranoid that people are talking about me, that people don&#8217;t like me..all these anxieties take so much of my energy, that sometimes I have to admit I think &#8220;Maybe this whole thing is crazy&#8230;I mean just take the pills, they make it so much easier!&#8221;.  But I know at this point, there&#8217;s a price to pay, and I&#8217;m no longer willing to pay it.  I feel the drugs take away a big part of my spirituality and soul&#8211;and I want to know this part&#8211;deeply and passionately&#8211;including the searing pain&#8211;before I die.  I mean what else is there?  I think that self-hatred and the social anxiety that produces is my main issue.  Knowing that helps.  I have tools now that I didn&#8217;t in my early 20&#8217;s when I began taking drugs to ease the self hating tortures my mind would inflict on me.  Meditation is so key.  It&#8217;s made more of a difference than anything.  I had a major turning point when I realized I wasn&#8217;t my thoughts.  This is just static on the radio.  It&#8217;s not me.  Once I really saw that, I couldn&#8217;t go back.  </p>
<p>So now I&#8217;m back to square one&#8230;dealing with me, and all that tortuous stuff, without the thicker skin that the drugs give.  It&#8217;s hard.  But it feels familiar&#8230;like I&#8217;m back to that younger self that just needed some love, acceptance and guidance (not drugs)&#8230;and I&#8217;m going to give it to her.  </p>
<p>I definitely think love and acceptance can help heal ourselves and then we in turn become healers for others.  And I think you are meant to be a healer, Gianna, and that your posts, whether happy or sad, victorious or despairing, are very healing for us all to read.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these are just some thoughts that were triggered. 

What is a healthy relationship with the future?

Fear is the way we lure future pain into the present.

Hope is the way we draw future happiness into the present.

But in either case we are straining to fix the future and give it a shape that in reality has yet to form.

The middle way is faith - the willingness to try.

That means we don&#039;t have to meet the future until it has started to unfold in the present.

It means the future is a culture out of which things grow rather than a darkness in which things lurk.

When the future no longer looks threatening we can welcome its arrival instead of trying to hunt it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these are just some thoughts that were triggered. </p>
<p>What is a healthy relationship with the future?</p>
<p>Fear is the way we lure future pain into the present.</p>
<p>Hope is the way we draw future happiness into the present.</p>
<p>But in either case we are straining to fix the future and give it a shape that in reality has yet to form.</p>
<p>The middle way is faith &#8211; the willingness to try.</p>
<p>That means we don&#8217;t have to meet the future until it has started to unfold in the present.</p>
<p>It means the future is a culture out of which things grow rather than a darkness in which things lurk.</p>
<p>When the future no longer looks threatening we can welcome its arrival instead of trying to hunt it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/symptoms-and-acceptance/#comment-5897</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great post Gianna, and for mentioning me :)  I feel like I&#039;m just beginning this journey to wellness, after too many years of stuffing things down.  I think some of the things you mention are going to be really helpful.  And you are so not a hypocrite.  It&#039;s called being human... and a agree with Duane, a very courageous one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great post Gianna, and for mentioning me <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I feel like I&#8217;m just beginning this journey to wellness, after too many years of stuffing things down.  I think some of the things you mention are going to be really helpful.  And you are so not a hypocrite.  It&#8217;s called being human&#8230; and a agree with Duane, a very courageous one at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Westwind</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/symptoms-and-acceptance/#comment-5896</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Westwind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gianna,

I was particularly moved by your reference to mindfulness. I found as a lot of my symptoms cleared I was drawn to being Awake, instead of the many varieties of Escape. I still feel physical pain to be a challenge to sit with, though this morning I could briefly send some intense love to my impending migraine (have done little but hate them bitterly for years). I think it helped (but so did grapefruit seed extract, Zyflamend, digestive enzyme, Magnesium taurate and B6). Nutrients for body combined with nutrients for soul.

Warmly, 
Sue Westwind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gianna,</p>
<p>I was particularly moved by your reference to mindfulness. I found as a lot of my symptoms cleared I was drawn to being Awake, instead of the many varieties of Escape. I still feel physical pain to be a challenge to sit with, though this morning I could briefly send some intense love to my impending migraine (have done little but hate them bitterly for years). I think it helped (but so did grapefruit seed extract, Zyflamend, digestive enzyme, Magnesium taurate and B6). Nutrients for body combined with nutrients for soul.</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Sue Westwind</p>
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		<title>By: duanesherry</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/symptoms-and-acceptance/#comment-5893</link>
		<dc:creator>duanesherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gianna,

I&#039;m dumbfounded on why the term &#039;hypocrite&#039; comes up in this post - 

Go to Susan Bernard&#039;s site, and read the post on &#039;Courage&#039;.  

This is what I read in this post - I see a very courageous person - not a &#039;hyprocrite&#039;.

Don&#039;t meant to be too hard on you here Gianna - but, you should remove this word from your vocabulary....You simply are not a hypocrite.

Sue me.

Duane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gianna,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m dumbfounded on why the term &#8216;hypocrite&#8217; comes up in this post &#8211; </p>
<p>Go to Susan Bernard&#8217;s site, and read the post on &#8216;Courage&#8217;.  </p>
<p>This is what I read in this post &#8211; I see a very courageous person &#8211; not a &#8216;hyprocrite&#8217;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t meant to be too hard on you here Gianna &#8211; but, you should remove this word from your vocabulary&#8230;.You simply are not a hypocrite.</p>
<p>Sue me.</p>
<p>Duane</p>
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		<title>By: z0tl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this guy gets it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbmJjjJRko

via SFjane&#039;s lotus sutra link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy gets it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbmJjjJRko" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbmJjjJRko</a></p>
<p>via SFjane&#8217;s lotus sutra link.</p>
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		<title>By: Bipolar Welllness Writer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bipolar Welllness Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gianna,
This is a great post. It shows how we can face these symptoms head on rather than retreating in fear. It&#039;s heartening to know you can eliminate a panic attack or anxiety in such a short time period without medication.

After getting off most of my medication, I only feel depression (and these days, it&#039;s one episode a year although I&#039;m hoping to end it entirely), irritability and anger (far less than before), and hypomania (far less than before).

I do a series of wellness activities to stave off each or lessen their impact. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don&#039;t. In terms of depression, I realize that sometimes there is a reason for a depressive episode. It&#039;s telling me that I&#039;m moving off track and need to reevaluate, or something or someone is making me unhappy.

Since I&#039;ve taken away the &quot;fear&quot; element from the equation, if I can listen to the depression, and figure out the message, that&#039;s another way for me to end it.

Anyway, enough about me. This is a truly thought-provoking post. I visited Jayme&#039;s site and read her post. It, too, is highly thought-provoking and well worth reading. I&#039;ve ordered one of Cheri Huber&#039;s books and look forward to reading it.

I believe we are all onto something important that few other people are writing about. When a person feels the only path toward wellness is medication, it&#039;s a totally powerless position to be in. Basically, it means you have no control over your life, and can&#039;t do anything to make yourself feel better. 

But some of us are taking other paths, which are highly empowering. What you&#039;re doing is truly a major breakthrough and this is an inspirational post!

Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gianna,<br />
This is a great post. It shows how we can face these symptoms head on rather than retreating in fear. It&#8217;s heartening to know you can eliminate a panic attack or anxiety in such a short time period without medication.</p>
<p>After getting off most of my medication, I only feel depression (and these days, it&#8217;s one episode a year although I&#8217;m hoping to end it entirely), irritability and anger (far less than before), and hypomania (far less than before).</p>
<p>I do a series of wellness activities to stave off each or lessen their impact. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don&#8217;t. In terms of depression, I realize that sometimes there is a reason for a depressive episode. It&#8217;s telling me that I&#8217;m moving off track and need to reevaluate, or something or someone is making me unhappy.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve taken away the &#8220;fear&#8221; element from the equation, if I can listen to the depression, and figure out the message, that&#8217;s another way for me to end it.</p>
<p>Anyway, enough about me. This is a truly thought-provoking post. I visited Jayme&#8217;s site and read her post. It, too, is highly thought-provoking and well worth reading. I&#8217;ve ordered one of Cheri Huber&#8217;s books and look forward to reading it.</p>
<p>I believe we are all onto something important that few other people are writing about. When a person feels the only path toward wellness is medication, it&#8217;s a totally powerless position to be in. Basically, it means you have no control over your life, and can&#8217;t do anything to make yourself feel better. </p>
<p>But some of us are taking other paths, which are highly empowering. What you&#8217;re doing is truly a major breakthrough and this is an inspirational post!</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not hypocritical at all, Gianna.  As you say, it is a journey, and sometimes we backslide and sometimes we move forward, but it sounds as if your feet are firmly upon a path that will lead to healing.  Accepting our feelings and allowing ourselves to experience them is so important to our health.  And following the things you know in your gut to be true is just as important.  It&#039;s something I&#039;m working on, too.  I&#039;m glad we&#039;re on this journey together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not hypocritical at all, Gianna.  As you say, it is a journey, and sometimes we backslide and sometimes we move forward, but it sounds as if your feet are firmly upon a path that will lead to healing.  Accepting our feelings and allowing ourselves to experience them is so important to our health.  And following the things you know in your gut to be true is just as important.  It&#8217;s something I&#8217;m working on, too.  I&#8217;m glad we&#8217;re on this journey together.</p>
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