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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-13407</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually JoAnne it&#039;s clear you don&#039;t know my story, since I looked at the date of this post I hadn&#039;t even started my Klonopin withdrawal...

I was still withdrawing from other stuff...

I&#039;m currently down to the last drug and it is the benzo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually JoAnne it&#8217;s clear you don&#8217;t know my story, since I looked at the date of this post I hadn&#8217;t even started my Klonopin withdrawal&#8230;</p>
<p>I was still withdrawing from other stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently down to the last drug and it is the benzo.</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-13405</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where you got the idea I&#039;m not being conservative...I&#039;ve been withdrawing from drugs for 5 years and well, if you read any of the rest of my blog you&#039;ll see I&#039;m very conservative...i&#039;m also very ill...I&#039;ve come off 6 drugs, the detox is killing me...and I am not your typical benzo case because of the polydrugging.

I don&#039;t eat potatoes...too starchy and they mess with my hypoglycemia. I have found other wonderful natural means to help me sleep and stay relatively balanced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you got the idea I&#8217;m not being conservative&#8230;I&#8217;ve been withdrawing from drugs for 5 years and well, if you read any of the rest of my blog you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;m very conservative&#8230;i&#8217;m also very ill&#8230;I&#8217;ve come off 6 drugs, the detox is killing me&#8230;and I am not your typical benzo case because of the polydrugging.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t eat potatoes&#8230;too starchy and they mess with my hypoglycemia. I have found other wonderful natural means to help me sleep and stay relatively balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-13401</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be more conservative with your withdrawal timetable....I began tapering clonazepam October, &#039;08. After crossing over to Valium at some pont,  I&#039;m now down to 4.5 mgs. of that.

 From my readings and discussion with my nurse practitioner I may need to began reducing the current 1/2 mg/2-3wks to 1/4mg/2-3 wks. soon. (Originally I started reducing at 1mg/1wk).

At this 1/4mg reduction rate I will have been tapering for for a total  period of 17 months. (Oct &#039;08- March &#039;10). I was on 2-3mg of Klonopin. The last 5 mgs. I understand are the most difficult.

As an aside, I&#039;ve been following the eating program set out in &quot;Potatoes Not Prozac&quot; and it&#039;s changing my life before my very eyes, after only a few weeks. Can&#039;t recommend it highly enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be more conservative with your withdrawal timetable&#8230;.I began tapering clonazepam October, &#8216;08. After crossing over to Valium at some pont,  I&#8217;m now down to 4.5 mgs. of that.</p>
<p> From my readings and discussion with my nurse practitioner I may need to began reducing the current 1/2 mg/2-3wks to 1/4mg/2-3 wks. soon. (Originally I started reducing at 1mg/1wk).</p>
<p>At this 1/4mg reduction rate I will have been tapering for for a total  period of 17 months. (Oct &#8216;08- March &#8216;10). I was on 2-3mg of Klonopin. The last 5 mgs. I understand are the most difficult.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;ve been following the eating program set out in &#8220;Potatoes Not Prozac&#8221; and it&#8217;s changing my life before my very eyes, after only a few weeks. Can&#8217;t recommend it highly enough.</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-7049</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you Al,
I&#039;m glad things are going so well for you and thank you for sharing your experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you Al,<br />
I&#8217;m glad things are going so well for you and thank you for sharing your experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Al 23</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-7048</link>
		<dc:creator>Al 23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following the Ashton Manual since Feb. I was originally on 2mg Atavan per day. As suggested by Ashton I switched to the Valium equivalent, 20mg and began my taper. Has it been easy? Not really. But I&#039;m down to 8mg Valium and most days, these days, I feel better more hours than worse. 

My w/d symptoms have been mild to moderate, certainly nothing severe. By the end of the year I&#039;ll be free of this poison. 

Sadly, most American physicians are ignorant about Benzo use and withdrawal. But thanks to Dr. Ashton and a few ther we can be drug free, safely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following the Ashton Manual since Feb. I was originally on 2mg Atavan per day. As suggested by Ashton I switched to the Valium equivalent, 20mg and began my taper. Has it been easy? Not really. But I&#8217;m down to 8mg Valium and most days, these days, I feel better more hours than worse. </p>
<p>My w/d symptoms have been mild to moderate, certainly nothing severe. By the end of the year I&#8217;ll be free of this poison. </p>
<p>Sadly, most American physicians are ignorant about Benzo use and withdrawal. But thanks to Dr. Ashton and a few ther we can be drug free, safely.</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6142</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There has to be a place left in modern life for a crisis of the soul, a dark night that doesn’t have a chemical solution.”&lt;/i&gt;

Amen.
I think that is beautiful and I also think that for some brave souls there is still that place....dare I say I&#039;m in it now at least some of the time...

also a place for ecstasy that is not thwarted with chemicals. 

I know of people who have left mania&#039;s untreated and came out the other side happier and healthier....more whole....and it was all experienced as a Spiritual Emergency....see my blogroll for info on Spiritual Emergency...

thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There has to be a place left in modern life for a crisis of the soul, a dark night that doesn’t have a chemical solution.”</i></p>
<p>Amen.<br />
I think that is beautiful and I also think that for some brave souls there is still that place&#8230;.dare I say I&#8217;m in it now at least some of the time&#8230;</p>
<p>also a place for ecstasy that is not thwarted with chemicals. </p>
<p>I know of people who have left mania&#8217;s untreated and came out the other side happier and healthier&#8230;.more whole&#8230;.and it was all experienced as a Spiritual Emergency&#8230;.see my blogroll for info on Spiritual Emergency&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: catherine</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6135</link>
		<dc:creator>catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gianna, 

I know this does quite go with the current post, but as I was looking through my past posts I found this quote and thought of you . . .


&quot;She doesn&#039;t want to take St. John&#039;s Wort; she doesn&#039;t want to be on antidepressants; she has stopped going to Dr. Payne. There has to be a place left in modern life for a crisis of the soul, a dark night that doesn&#039;t have a chemical solution.&quot;

Julia Alvarez, &lt;i&gt;Saving the World&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gianna, </p>
<p>I know this does quite go with the current post, but as I was looking through my past posts I found this quote and thought of you . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;She doesn&#8217;t want to take St. John&#8217;s Wort; she doesn&#8217;t want to be on antidepressants; she has stopped going to Dr. Payne. There has to be a place left in modern life for a crisis of the soul, a dark night that doesn&#8217;t have a chemical solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Julia Alvarez, <i>Saving the World</i></p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6122</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Ametyst,
I live with that same hope as I continue my journey towards being drug free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Ametyst,<br />
I live with that same hope as I continue my journey towards being drug free.</p>
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		<title>By: Ametyst</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ametyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again, for your blog.  It provides such a link with withdrawing from psych drugs.  

I have started withdrawing from Lithium.  It gives me a feeling of hope that some day I will be free of the sedation that Lithium provides and that I will be able to live 
without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again, for your blog.  It provides such a link with withdrawing from psych drugs.  </p>
<p>I have started withdrawing from Lithium.  It gives me a feeling of hope that some day I will be free of the sedation that Lithium provides and that I will be able to live<br />
without it.</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6115</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coco,
I don&#039;t have a relationship with her. If you do you are in a better position to know whether it would be appropriate to share my blog with her.

I think information, in general, is always a good thing...but not everyone shares that opinion, and I don&#039;t know what she might think.

If you have a relationship to her as a blogger you can let her know I would be willing to talk to her through email. 

I certainly understand her issues as laid out in that one post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coco,<br />
I don&#8217;t have a relationship with her. If you do you are in a better position to know whether it would be appropriate to share my blog with her.</p>
<p>I think information, in general, is always a good thing&#8230;but not everyone shares that opinion, and I don&#8217;t know what she might think.</p>
<p>If you have a relationship to her as a blogger you can let her know I would be willing to talk to her through email. </p>
<p>I certainly understand her issues as laid out in that one post.</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6114</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gianna, when I read this post from Aqua at Vicarious Therapy, I thought of you.  She seems so lost, and I didn&#039;t know whether or not directing her to your website would be helpful or harmful.  Can I get your opinion?

http://vicarioustherapy.blogspot.com/2008/06/benzodiazepines-and-me.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gianna, when I read this post from Aqua at Vicarious Therapy, I thought of you.  She seems so lost, and I didn&#8217;t know whether or not directing her to your website would be helpful or harmful.  Can I get your opinion?</p>
<p><a href="http://vicarioustherapy.blogspot.com/2008/06/benzodiazepines-and-me.html" rel="nofollow">http://vicarioustherapy.blogspot.com/2008/06/benzodiazepines-and-me.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6110</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you the best in your quest for drug freedom Susan!

B-12 injections gave me a boost at one time. I don&#039;t take them anymore though. B-6 injections help some people too. 

Those are the only B&#039;s I&#039;ve heard people inject...are there others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you the best in your quest for drug freedom Susan!</p>
<p>B-12 injections gave me a boost at one time. I don&#8217;t take them anymore though. B-6 injections help some people too. </p>
<p>Those are the only B&#8217;s I&#8217;ve heard people inject&#8230;are there others?</p>
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		<title>By: Bipolar Wellness Writer</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6109</link>
		<dc:creator>Bipolar Wellness Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gianna,
Very informative post. For me, Adderall is truly the only medication that can end a depression--and it works the very first day. The first time I took it, I had been in a year-long depression and would have taken anything to have it stop. 

My new psychiatrist prescribed 10 milligrams of Adderall and my depression ended the next day, which truly was a miracle. (It was Thanksgiving day; and for the first time in years, I truly was thankful.)

My doctor told me that Adderall was addictive; but he also knew that nothing else had worked for me because I had tried everything else. 

When the depression ended, and I can feel it end beneath the medication, we also knew I would have to go off it immediately without titrating down. That&#039;s because my  body responds differently to medication than other people, and we figured (correctly) that within one day, the Adderall could cause a hypomania. 

When I take Adderall, I have to take Ativan at night to sleep or I can&#039;t sleep at all. As soon as I get off the Adderall, I have to start the withdrawal process for the Ativan; otherwise it produces a residual depression each morning.

I had to figure out this by myself. Hopefully, this is my last bout with both drugs. Because of circadian rhythms, it&#039;s quite likely that I can end the Adderall in July, and then start the two-month withdrawal from Ativan and remain drug-free (forever).

Hopefully, my new wellness regimen will work. Also, I am going to see a doctor about the possibility of injections of &quot;B&quot; vitamins if I start getting depressed in November--a standard period for my depressions--rather than using Adderall. I&#039;ve been researching this and think it might work.

Again, Gianna, thanks for all the info.

Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gianna,<br />
Very informative post. For me, Adderall is truly the only medication that can end a depression&#8211;and it works the very first day. The first time I took it, I had been in a year-long depression and would have taken anything to have it stop. </p>
<p>My new psychiatrist prescribed 10 milligrams of Adderall and my depression ended the next day, which truly was a miracle. (It was Thanksgiving day; and for the first time in years, I truly was thankful.)</p>
<p>My doctor told me that Adderall was addictive; but he also knew that nothing else had worked for me because I had tried everything else. </p>
<p>When the depression ended, and I can feel it end beneath the medication, we also knew I would have to go off it immediately without titrating down. That&#8217;s because my  body responds differently to medication than other people, and we figured (correctly) that within one day, the Adderall could cause a hypomania. </p>
<p>When I take Adderall, I have to take Ativan at night to sleep or I can&#8217;t sleep at all. As soon as I get off the Adderall, I have to start the withdrawal process for the Ativan; otherwise it produces a residual depression each morning.</p>
<p>I had to figure out this by myself. Hopefully, this is my last bout with both drugs. Because of circadian rhythms, it&#8217;s quite likely that I can end the Adderall in July, and then start the two-month withdrawal from Ativan and remain drug-free (forever).</p>
<p>Hopefully, my new wellness regimen will work. Also, I am going to see a doctor about the possibility of injections of &#8220;B&#8221; vitamins if I start getting depressed in November&#8211;a standard period for my depressions&#8211;rather than using Adderall. I&#8217;ve been researching this and think it might work.</p>
<p>Again, Gianna, thanks for all the info.</p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting Gianna, I used Ativan in my ealy 20&#039;s for anxiety attacks, but only very infrequently. I have a sister who&#039;s been on benzo&#039;s for years.  I can see from a distance that they are part of her problem, but I haven&#039;t had the nerve to suggest this to her.  I&#039;m pretty sure it would be as much as my life is worth.  Maybe she even knows... obviously we&#039;re not that close anymore.  Anyway, thanks for a great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting Gianna, I used Ativan in my ealy 20&#8217;s for anxiety attacks, but only very infrequently. I have a sister who&#8217;s been on benzo&#8217;s for years.  I can see from a distance that they are part of her problem, but I haven&#8217;t had the nerve to suggest this to her.  I&#8217;m pretty sure it would be as much as my life is worth.  Maybe she even knows&#8230; obviously we&#8217;re not that close anymore.  Anyway, thanks for a great post.</p>
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		<title>By: giannakali</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6107</link>
		<dc:creator>giannakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jazz,
From what I understand you only take Ativan on rare occasion. That&#039;s really not a problem as far as what you&#039;re reading above goes. 

The above applies to long-term chronic use. Occasional inconsistent use is not so much an issue.

I personally will throw away what ever remains when I&#039;m done but that is a philosophical position I&#039;ve chosen. I want to cope naturally with my crap. And basically this withdrawal process is a very good teacher for doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jazz,<br />
From what I understand you only take Ativan on rare occasion. That&#8217;s really not a problem as far as what you&#8217;re reading above goes. </p>
<p>The above applies to long-term chronic use. Occasional inconsistent use is not so much an issue.</p>
<p>I personally will throw away what ever remains when I&#8217;m done but that is a philosophical position I&#8217;ve chosen. I want to cope naturally with my crap. And basically this withdrawal process is a very good teacher for doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/the-possible-perils-of-benzodiazepine-use/#comment-6105</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I think you&#039;ve convinced me to flush the rest of my Ativan down the loo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I think you&#8217;ve convinced me to flush the rest of my Ativan down the loo!</p>
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